Welches Öl ist am besten für einen CJ 540

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Welches Öl ist am besten für einen CJ 540

Beitrag von arodi »

Hey Leute \:D/

Ich würde gerne einen Ölwechsel bei meinen Mahi CJ540 machen (BJ 1994). Welches Öl wäre hierfür das Beste bzw am geeignetsten?? Freue mich über jede Hilfe :D

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Re: Welches Öl ist am besten für einen CJ 540

Beitrag von Ungarnfreund »

Hi,

Motorenöl? Diferentialöl? Getriebeöl?

Fragen über Fragen...

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Re: Welches Öl ist am besten für einen CJ 540

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Motor:
Für unser mitteleuropäisches Klima ist Öl der Viskosität SAE 10W-40 der Spezifikation ACEA A3/B3 zu empfehlen, welches bereits ab €10 im Handel erhältlich ist (z.B. Castrol CVX, Valvoline Durablend 10W-40, Adamol VSI 10W-40, Agip Formula LL 10W-40) - KEINE ÖLE UNTER DER GRUNDVISKOSITÄT SAE 10 VERWENDEN (ÖLVERBRAUCH-UNDICHTHEITEN)
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Schaltgetriebe/Verteilergetriebe:
SAE 90 der Spezifikation API GL-4 , MIL-L-2105 - besser aber nicht nötig ist API GL5, MIL-L-2105B,C,D
Nur Getriebeöl der Grundviskosität SAE 90 (z.B.: SAE 90, 90W-100, 90W-110 oder max. 85W-90) verwenden, das Getriebe ist aufgrund seiner auftretenden Belastungen, Spaltmaße und Dichtungen nicht für heute modern werdende dünnere Viskositäten (höhere Kriechfähigkeit) geeignet (falsch ist SAE 80W-90, SAE 75W-90 u.ä.). Keinesfalls zuwenig Öl einfüllen (immer bis zur Höhe der Einfüllschraube) - Gefahr schwerer Schäden!

Achsen/Lenkgetriebe:
SAE 90 der Spezifikation API GL-4 Hypoid, MIL-L-2105 - besser aber nicht nötig API GL5, MIL-L-2105B,C,D

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Wasserabweisendes, lithiumverseiftes Fett, Konsistenz N.L.G.I.=2

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Re: Welches Öl ist am besten für einen CJ 540

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Similar information to that found in the link I posted in sticky #4, excepting it focuses on the high zinc oil only? Same guy (540 RAT). Valvoline VR1 still near the top, better than Joe Gibbs, better than Brad Penn. The two top oils are "not for street use". Dot net Training in Chennai | Cloud Computing Training in Chennai :angel:
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Re: Welches Öl ist am besten für einen CJ 540

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Lately, there have been countless threads asking again and again, "What oil should I use". Please don't ask it again! Read this first. For what it's worth, there is not much here which is not in your owner's manual, but somehow nobody ever seems to read those ... PHP Training in Chennai :angel:

This question has to be answered in three parts, because there are three different "families" of VW TDI engines. The critical factor is whether your engine uses the older "rotary distributor pump" mechanical injection system, or the "pumpe-duse" or short-form "P-D" fuel injection system, or the new for 2009 "common-rail" fuel injection system. If you don't know, and you are in North America, it's easy to figure out: all TDI engines 2009 and later are "common-rail", all TDI engines sold here for 2004 through 2008 model years are "pumpe-duse", and all TDI engines sold here for 2003 and prior model years are not (they are "distributor pump"). There were no 2007 or 2008 Jetta TDI's but I am including those years in the list to make allowance for the Touareg. The Touareg's V10 is P-D no matter what model year. PHP Training in Chennai :angel:

If you are elsewhere in the world, it's more complicated because the P-D engines were phased in starting in 2000 and the common-rail engines were phased in starting in 2008 for VW-brand vehicles (Audi started earlier). If your 4-cylinder engine had an original horsepower rating of 90 or 110 then it is "distributor pump". If it was 100, 115, 130, 140 (*), 150, or 170 (*), then it is "pumpe-duse" (or in the case of (*) it could be common-rail). If it is 2.0 litre displacement rather than 1.9, then it is "pumpe-duse" or (*) common-rail regardless of power level. You can also tell the "distributor-pump" engine by the external injector pump driven by the timing belt on the front of the engine.

If you still cannot figure it out then assume it is a P-D. The oils suitable for a P-D are also suitable for the older models. The reverse is NOT true. PHP Training in Chennai :angel:

Okay, with that out of the way, here goes.

PART ONE: For engines that are NOT "pumpe-duse" or "common-rail". This is for the older-design mechanical rotary distributor pump engines.

You must use a synthetic engine oil, recommended viscosity 5w40 although 0w40 is also permissible (and in the case that the oil meets specifically one of the VW 505.xx standards then the viscosity does not matter, it could be different), AND in the fine print on the bottle that lists what standards that the oil conforms to, it must list either VW 505.00, ACEA B3, ACEA B4, API CJ-4, CI-4, API CH-4, or API CG-4. (Note: "Either" means ANY ONE OF, not necessarily all of them. For example, if it's VW 505.00 but doesn't list the others, that's fine, because VW 505.00 is "one" of the standards listed and you only need "one".) But do NOT assume that any synthetic oil will meet these standards. READ THE BOTTLE. For example, most versions of Mobil 1 do NOT meet these standards (they are meant for gasoline engines). Also, any oil that is suitable for a P-D is fine for a distributor-pump engine.

Many "European car" synthetic oils meet these requirements. So does Mobil Delvac 1 5w40, Shell Rotella Synthetic 5w40 or 0w40, PetroCanada Duron Synthetic 5w40 (can be special ordered at any PetroCanada OilChangers location in Canada), Castrol Syntec 5w40 European-car formulation, and quite a few others. IF IN DOUBT, READ THE LABEL.

The VW part number for the oil most commonly used at the dealers is ZVW-352-540S = Castrol Syntec 5W-40 (VW 505.00 rated, suitable for non-PD TDI engines; not suitable for PD TDI engines). If they use the PD oil (see below) that's OK.

PART TWO: "Pumpe-duse" engines.

VW requires that you must use an engine oil that explicitly states that it conforms to VW 505.01 (and in some cases oils that meet 506.01 or 507.00 but which also cover the 505.01 specification). NOTHING ELSE. Common choices are Castrol 5w40 TXT 505.01 (do NOT confuse this with the regular European-car formulation of Syntec 5w40, it is not the same), Elf Excellium VW 505.01 (has since been renamed to a Total brand), Motul 6100 VW 505.01, Motul Specific 505.01, Valvoline SynPower Synthetic European formulation 5w40 (available through UAP/NAPA), and there are others. ALL such oils prominently state VW 505.01 printed on the bottle. If it doesn't have that, it is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

Explanatory note: Lately, a number of folks have been doing their research, and have been getting good oil-analysis results with a number of very carefully chosen oils that are not "officially" approved by VW. Mobil 1 TDT (Turbo Diesel Truck) CJ-4 is one of them, and this one is fairly readily available. This will of course not help you if you try to make a warranty claim. If it's under warranty, see paragraph above if you want VW to even consider covering it.

The VW part number for the oil most commonly used is G-052-167-A2 = Castrol TXT 505.01 (VW 505.01 rated, suitable for PD TDI engines; also VW 505.00 rated and suitable for non-PD TDI engines).

PART THREE: "Common-rail" engines.

You must use an engine oil that explicitly states that it conforms to VW 507.00. NOTHING ELSE. These engines are too new for anyone to have experimented long-term with substitutes ... and in this case, the effect on the emission control components has to be considered. The VW part number for what is normally used at the dealer is GVW-052-195-M2.

Due to the limited number of VW diesels in North America, these oils are typically available only at VW dealers and parts vendors that specialize in VW cars. Other parts vendors might be able to special order it, so ask. To forestall another question, this is NOT a "monopoly". Engine oil vendors outside of VW dealers are perfectly free to market oils that meet VW's standards. The fact that not many have chosen to do so is THEIR fault, not VW's.

Beware the "meets or exceeds" game. The oil has to be certified to these standards by VW themselves. Amsoil is one notable oil brand which does not pay for such certification. They produce an oil which states VW 505.01 on the bottle, but it is not on VW's list of certified oils. That doesn't mean it's a bad product ... it just means that if something bad happens, there is a possibility that VW isn't going to warranty it (on the grounds that you did not use one of VW's certified oils), and if that happens, you are going to have a battle on your hands. It is BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS THREAD to explore the fine points of VW 505.01 certification, the subject has been beaten to death elsewhere with no end in sight, this thread merely serves to make you aware of the situation. If you want to research this, search the forums - there is already a ton of discussion on this and I'm not going to tolerate any further discussion of it in this thread.

WHAT HAPPENS IF I USE SOMETHING ELSE?

If the oil is not meant for diesel engines, it won't survive the high-soot environment. Oil meant for diesel engines is formulated to deal with the soot.

If you use a non-synthetic oil, it doesn't withstand high temperatures as well as synthetic oil. There are two areas of concern, the turbocharger, and the upper piston rings. There have been cases reported where upper piston rings were sticking due to oil breakdown, causing high piston ring and cylinder wall wear. There have been cases where turbochargers coked up their oil feed line and grenaded as a result.

If you use an oil that doesn't meet VW 505.01 in a P-D, expect high camshaft and lifter wear in the long term. MOBIL 1 (Gasoline engine oil) IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. (Some people have been reporting good oil-analysis results using Mobil 1 TDT even though it doesn't carry the VW approval.) These engines have unusually high contact pressures between the camshaft and lifters due to the narrow cam lobes forced by the space taken up by the P-D injector mechanism. It is NOT a safe assumption that an oil suitable for large truck engines which also have unit injectors will work in a VW P-D TDI.

If you use an oil that doesn't meet VW 507.00 in a common-rail engine, there is a risk that the additive package in the oil will be incompatible with the (very expensive) emission control system - and it's not only the emission control system at risk. These engines deliberately squirt an extra shot of fuel into the cylinder on the exhaust stroke to heat up the catalytic converter in order to "regenerate". A portion of this fuel will end up on the cylinder walls, be scraped up by the piston rings, and end up in the crankcase, where it will dilute the engine oil. The engine oil must be designed to tolerate a certain amount of fuel dilution on these engines.
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